Obeying Authority | Unethical Psychology
Unethical experiments of the past have taught us much about Psychology, but one major study has been used to defend some of the worst abusers of authority.
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Thanks to JJ McCullough for reading quotes aboot Psychology.
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Rationally Speaking #241 with Thibault Le Texier –
Experimenter (2016) –
The Stanford Prison Experiment (2015) –
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Vsauce – Mind Field S3 E4 – The Stanford Prison Experiment –
TED – The psychology of evil | Philip Zimbardo –
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I had Zimbardo's "The Lucifer Effect" on my Amazon wishlist for a couple years. Glad I never bought it.
"That's the story that's bigger than the science"
So basically, it's a parable. Might as well some old bible stories in the textbooks as well for their moral lessons.
You didn't mention the sexual abuse (rape) that occurred during the prison experiment.
That he and his team set up such an unethical experiment refutes his argument itself. He wasnt forced by a greater system. The act of setting up this extremely unethical experiment was only for the sake of their research
Man how do you not have more subs
i didn't even here the beep the first time but i still flinched lol
Now, in 2020 it's even worse.
Since "Corona", there's NO DOUBT, that there's AT LEAST 70% of Human Population (WORLDWIDE !!!) that is following Orders given by "Authorities" just via the Media, right away. Against their WILL, against LOGIC, against their closest Friends, their Family and against their OWN HEALTH! – actually against humanity itself.
Since "Corona", I feel even more Alien on a Planet of Sheeples. It's not only worrying to know we are surrounded by Billions of "Simpletons", it's deadly and a shame.
I would have Question anything against any Persona, like I did in my whole Life. Damn, how many People are without confidence, like them being all kinda self enslaved early on. Ridiculous!
And I'm aware my Statement is based on my own Opinion and confidence, that "Corona" is the biggest Fake in History. And if I'm wrong with my viewpoint, I'll easy take any consequences…
Thumbs up for your Videos, you're doing good on that.
Dude! Your videos are so solid.
imagine arguing with a literal strawman argument you made by dressing up in a dorky suit and saying ignorant shit in a fake british accent instead of addressing actual arguments against the experiment.
that jim gaffigan?
I didn't flinch! I didn't even hear the beep… I need a hearing test. 😔
Weirdest iterations of the Millgram experiments were still the one in a untrustworthy setting (basement off campus in I think a less Nice neighbourhood, with a weird looking exoerimenter. A lot of People still gave the maximum voltage. Another version manipulated the distance to the learner (even going as far as having to put the hand on a plate to Force the shock) or distance to the experimenter (they had to call him when in doubt). These factors did seem to have An effect whether it not the teacher gave a shock.
Big flaw with real life vs the prison experiment imo is that the prison experiment didn't get worse gradually. You don't start abusing prisoners hard immediately. It is a gradual proces. It would have been interesting if one of the guards was a confederate, slowly mistreating the prisoners . So we could see if the rest joined in.
i don't understand. 2/3rds of people being tested knowingly tried and would have killed someone just because they were told to? was there threats of repercussions if they didn't flip the switches? i don't believe this. how is it possible that 60% of the people tested would murder another innocent person for the sake of a study just because they were told to and that there wouldn't be any legal repercussions?
The experiments they did to me was not anything like that I was drugged strapped to a table hooked up to machines for everything they wanted to know what was wrong with my mind and did this for years I'm not broken
if the criticism is that the participants would know thereafter something they didn't know about themselves, I would say, however painful, truth is better than ignorance.
"You just flinched didn't you?"
If by flinching you mean annoyed by bright lights and high pitched beeps, then yes.
“You just flinched didnt you”
Me who didnt even realize what was happening: “haha idiot psychology cant trick me”
I have a tinnitus is both my ears peeps dont scare me anymore
25:24 When put in a position of authority, KnowingBetter will beep.
What the Stanford prison got right is prisons do teach and encourage guards to to "tough".
I not sure that the experiment isn’t more accurate than we would like. If you want to measure human behavior in a vacuum sure, then we could say that this experiment is flawed, but none of us live in a vacuum. there are always motivating factors involved. A boss who fires an employee with kids, a government official who puts forward a bill that is to the disadvantage of the public, a company that provides products or services that do not benefit the customer etc we all act according to social norms and will do so when things that should be considered extreme becomes normal or is made to become normal. The “inherent good behavior” of humans is possibly a motivated behavior as well.
I participated in psych experiments back in college expecting that what I was told was being studied and what was actually being studied were almost certainly not the same. As such I just went along with whatever the experimenter said to, this is not consistent with my behaviors in real life where I often pushed back more against my leadership to make sure various risks were known and vetted.
Wonderful video, as always! Is no one going to mention J.J McCullough’s voiceover cameos though? Lol.
In doing psychology as an a level and it's fustrating that we're still taking this experiment as fact.